Be kind! [–]Technognomey 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]TrishulaMTG 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (22 children). That is more aristocrats than LE style. But if you polled Spikes on whether they would rather play in a format with either Brainstorm or Ancestral being legal, I bet almost all of them would pick Brainstorm. Sunday, Wizards of the Coast published all the decklists from our [link](https://cardsrealm.com/tourners/official/pioneer/2019-10-27/pioneer-challenge)(first Pioneer Challenge). What pay offs do we have? [–]Bananadan6 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child). Which comes of no surprise considering all the overpowered PWs printed in the last six months. And like stirrings, I believe this will be fine, it's the other cards that enable degenerate and really powerful stuff. [March 22nd] Pioneer Challenge Top 32 Decklists. Azorius Control. 4 of the top 8 are Monogreen Devotion (including 1st place), and 10 of the top 32 are Monogreen Devotion. Episode 14: Pioneer Challenge Results and other cards that would be good in Pioneer! First off, go Blazers. Being good in a powerful shell is not the same as being individually powerful. This unofficial "decklist dump" is far from complete though, so please let me know of any 4-1 of better decklists you know of and I'll add those to the spreadsheet. Red Deck Wins. [–]CenturionRower 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (6 children). It’s fine in 2 colours. Theres also 4 ways ballista can be used because its dual type (delirium enabler) uses counters (hardened scales), scales infinitely (ramp) and is a pinger (removal). It's a powerful card. Try to do some metagame testing to get a feel for your deck so you can talk about it better. How long before/after this was posted were many of these decks made invalid? 10. UW control - 1 copy (3%) 4Merfolk Trickster4Siren Stormtamer. [–]AncientFudge1984 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). 7. The first Mythic Point Challenge has now wrapped up on MTG Arena, a tournament that players who achieved the top 1200 Mythic ranking in the previous seasons were qualified to participate. Because it was the first Challenger, many came up with the decks they liked best on Standard or believed to be the best deck. 3. [–]McWinSauce 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (1 child). "We board it out" isn't a great justification for not banning a card. Since the unbanning of Oath of Nissa, I, like many of you, were sort of wary of the format.It turns out, Oath of Nissa might have added more wrinkles to the format than previously thought. Second, I don't know if you're out there in Reddit world, but thank you for continuing to jam this sweet Vampires deck to success every week. [–]Ahayzo 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children), I just want to play Esper Gift with Stitcher’s Supplier and Merfolk Secretkeeper, [–]NoxTempus 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children), GPG probably can't exist in the same meta as Oko, [–]Bananadan6 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (7 children). I've been on a Zombies list with a very similar gameplan and an extremely similar sideboard, but Sorin is too hot to be ignored, and so I'm switching tribal teams. [–]AncientFudge1984 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children). [–]57messier 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). [–]kami_inu 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). [–]Res_Novae 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). [–]d7h7n 44 points45 points46 points 1 year ago (3 children). [–]NumberFifteen15 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). Interestingly 7 of the top 8 in this list were mono colored decks, 4 Green, 2 Red and 1 Black. I’d rather see Saheeli go because Felidar still can do interesting things elsewhere, but it’s also the card they screwed up on the templating so it’s the likely hit between that and being a rando uncommon, [–]Existenz81 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). [–]LotusCobra 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (0 children). Hey, guys! If it was brought up I hope they guy/gal who did so got some side-eye from the people who know better. They are feel bad cards that make timmys/spikes angry but they are probably fine. MTG DECKS: Magic the Gathering top 8 decks database. [–]Maroonwarlock 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (3 children). [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call, [–]Bananadan6 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]kami_inu 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (3 children). [–]d7h7n -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (3 children). PNR 41 / 18 . They're clearly not Johnny cards, they make Timmy and Spike angry, Vorthos probably doesn't care if they're tournament legal, so who are these cards for exactly? I commend them for trying to actually make a free spell fair but they missed the mark once again on this one. ", [–]Nickypoo_Loves_You 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (5 children), [–]RedBlackX 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (4 children), [–]lvlI0cpu 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child). Go faster than anyone or go taller than anyone. Nyx is so dependent on other cards to be good, and all those other cards can have answers- save for walkers. 21. It’ll be much better once they reprint the missing fastlands. This was our first outting with the deck, which I believe showcases its power, we also discuss in one of the matches (may be cut due to editing) how magic has so many lines at times, finding new ones helps us learn! 1. All Rights Reserved. [–]CenturionRower 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (10 children). T3feri in play for 1000 turns can’t win the game. The deck is a 'control' deck without the counters. Not to mention, that while it has late game inevitability, I don't think it matches the late game power of mono-green even post banning. Sorin and walking ballista reads kill target creature. Mono Green Devotion is getting hit for sure. There's only 4/32 decks playing Felidar Guardian. [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call, [–]Bananadan6 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). Mono-green Stompy - 2 copies (3%) [–]hsc92587 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children), Almost like the mana fixing in the format isn’t great or something, [–]AdrianRWalker 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). I’ll look into lists, but it’s not really my style. In my experience, Spikes will play anything, but what they like is for the format to be conducive to skill-intensive games of Magic where they can outplay their opponent. Nykthos has to go...same with either oko/teferi to hurt the cat combo. I love Green, but damn I think something is going to have to be banned. Magic players are good people and will eventually stop playing degenerate shit... Huh, every oponent I've had must each be an anomaly, [–]Aextasis 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), Non rotating formats always degenerate into the same pattern. Top 8. [–]Jolraels_Centaur_OP 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children), Urza: "With these three lands, I can cast an Ulamog on turn four! Thanks! If everyone is just casting their spells on their own turn, that reduces the player's options and lessens Spike's ability to conceal information, leverage bluffs, play reactively, and so on. Oh and the dumb card printed called nexus of fate. [–]Meecht 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (2 children), [–]MTGCardFetcher 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), Immortal Servitude - (G) (SF) (txt) [–]Thereisnocomp2 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). We received this from a community member, and thought we'd take it into the Challenge (though we were close to just running the UG Nexus deck). I have no idea why everyone is so set on them banning cards. God damnit dude, seriously? Pl Deck Player Price; 1st R R R: ShowTime_ 79 tix $ 88 - 2nd Sultai Reclamation Sultai Reclamation Sultai Reclamation: Harry13: 325 tix $ 395 - 3rd Niv to Light Niv to Light Niv to Light: Xerk: 472 tix $ 466 - 4th Burn Burn Burn: DioMagoSrl: 93 tix $ 158 - ⦠4. [–]CenturionRower 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (8 children). Don't Be a Corpsejack Menace to Society... by G a t t i s o n. PNR 8 / 6 . I.e. Be excellent to each other and follow basic reddiquette. ", [–]Dimir_Frost_Mage 16 points17 points18 points 1 year ago (0 children). We hope to see you all there! Cartel Aristocrat - (G) (SF) (txt) Rare (27) 4Mutavault4Harbinger of the Tides4Tempest Djinn4Smuggler's Copter3Sorcerous Spyglass4Spell Pierce4Tidebinder Mage. I am truly hopeful that nothing gets banned. God-Pharoah's Gift - (G) (SF) (txt) [–]CenturionRower 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). [–]Instant-Speed-Scoop 19 points20 points21 points 1 year ago (1 child). Doesn't quite roll of the tongue does it? Weekly Metagame - What's the deck to beat? Legends of Runeterra and its respective properties are copyright Riot Games. But it is? Even the vampire deck is running it (assuming because of nyxthos), [–]CenturionRower 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (14 children). Auras Hexproof - 1 copy (3%) 2 Heartless Act 2 Aethersphere Harvester 2 Agonizing Remorse 1 Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet 2 Legion's End 1 Necromentia 3 Self-Inflicted Wound 2 Soul-Guide Lantern Fastfake (9th Place) Pioneer Challenge #12233117 on 11/29/2020 Decklist Stats Sample Hand Thank you! 4 Color Midrange â 495 decklists Goblins â 322 decklists Jund Sacrifice â 291 decklists Red Deck Wins â 260 decklists Gruul Aggro â 189 decklists Sultai Midramp â 162 decklists Artifacts Ramp â 111 decklists Azorius Auras â 110 decklists Get the decklists and a complete metagame overview in our Historic section âï¸ It's easy, just don't be a jerk. Mythic (12) 4Brazen Borrower4Master of Waves4Thassa, God of the Sea. I don't necessarily expect it to be banned later today but I'd be surprised if it doesn't get banned down the road. I would say that T3feri in particular is a problem card for Spikes since proper spell timing is a big differentiator for skilled players. You can't just jam ballista in any deck and have it perform. Idk, I’m having fun with burn too, but the feeling will pass bc I LOVE living end in modern and I just don’t have as much fun playing other decks. Dimir Inverter: Thattaman. Search Results for Magic Decks from MTGO Pioneer Challenge - 10/27/2019. I really wish there was a deck in pioneer that was like living end. Weekly Metagame - Is Magic Healthy Again ? 7. If this was hearthstone, it would get nerfed from 5 to 4 and probably be fine most of the time. Yes, Spike's priority is winning, and they will absolutely play with broken cards in order to achieve that, but I think it's wrong to assume that Spikes automatically like those cards. PNR 8 / 8 . No. That's a sort of caricature model of Spike that doesn't really hold up to any real people I've met. The stream will be casted by yours truly along with my cohost on The Pioneer Perspective, Alex! Archived [March 22nd] Pioneer Challenge Top 32 Decklists. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: The Pioneer Format of magic the gathering. Zulaport Cutthroat - (G) (SF) (txt) There is a Dredgeless Dredge it's just much more balanced without the dredge mechanic that it's not good enough to compare to decks like Copycat since a dredge style deck wants to ignore it's opponent but it can't here. You're doing god's work, sir/madam. 9. This is not the place to post low-effort content, pics of your foiled out deck, sweet booster pack pulls, or general MTG questions/comments. RB Aggro Pirates Win by Ninjew42. Don't worry, let the format solve itself. Thank you everyone for your patience and understanding as we had some scheduling conflicts due to the Holliday as well as a ton of technical difficulties for this episode. Stream The Only Two Decks To Play In Standard AND Pioneer by Arena Decklists from desktop or your mobile device. *METAGAME* Thanks for the cool list. a:15:{i:0;O:8:"stdClass":3:{s:4:"type";s:4:"land";s:10:"deck_count";s:2:"20";s:9:"card_meta";O:8:"stdClass":2:{s:5:"title";s:6:"Island";s:22:"field_card_image_front";a:0:{}}}i:1;O:8:"stdClass":3:{s:4:"type";s:4:"land";s:10:"deck_count"; [–]NoxLD 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (1 child), [–]Enral 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]Journeyman351 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (4 children), [–]CenturionRower 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children). Close. Only WotC has access to key data such as play % and win %. Hello Everyone! And for the nissa deck, we do have board wipes. At 2 mana ballista is draft chaff and at 8 mana he's a bad glorybringer. 8. Keep in mind this isn't the actual metagame, but the "winners metagame". Pioneer MTG Decks Visit Pioneer forum ... Budget Challenge: Orzhov Aristocrats by WurmMaster777. I don’t see that cat combo is an essential part of the format and randomly losing to it feels bad. [–]aggr1103 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (2 children). [deck](17429) [–]wdingo 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (2 children). 10/29/19 The first official decklist dump is coming up on Monday, so this will help everyone planning on participating in the Pioneer Challenge on Sunday or any Paper events at their LGS. [–]CenturionRower 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (12 children), I mean I'm sure its lower on the list but I'm sure it was discussed. Every combo deck will play him just to shut down removal / counterspells. it kills the scales deck instantly, so I hope thats not even close to being considered. Blanket/low-effort complaints aren't helpful. Gate to the Afterlife - (G) (SF) (txt) Mono-u Devotion - 1 copy (3%) [–]ThisHatRightHere 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]lordofthehomeless 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). 3º place - Sultai Midrange Swiss army knives can do more than one thing, they are very flexible. Mono-black vampires - 1 copy (3%) Sadly. [–]TrishulaMTG 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children). Thank you all so much! 3rd - Kethis: Lein_ 4th - Mono-G Walker Ramp: rusty_gates. UR Phoenix - 3 copies (10%) Some solid lines of Haunted dead discarding 1-2 amalgam end step is so good, [–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (10 children). Also tef3ri just bounces it away, [–]Tehdougler 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child). When posting a deck lists, make a text post linking to a deck building site (Archidekt, Scryfall, MTGGoldfish, TappedOut, etc). If you take a way t3feri, you will still die to the combo as there are other ways of protecting it: in the case of copy cat most of them run 3-4 veil. Went 6-3 playing Esper Saheeli. [deck](17430) 2 - Provide ideas with some substance to them. [deck](17428) Saheeli was dominant in the field, but appeared poorly in the Top 8. [card](Elvish Mystic) (32 copies) Magic: The Gathering and its respective properties are copyright Wizards of the Coast. Dimir Inverter: Phizzle. I’m playing it. [–]ShoogleHS 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago* (0 children). Deck appeared to be weak against the UG Lumbering Falls deck, or hexproof decks as a lot of the removal is targetted. Saheeli Cat - 9 copies (27%) Decklist Stats Sample Hand. New ideas are awesome and always welcome. Hello I never said it needed banned? But I think that even that's premature as the format may adapt to better deal with the green ramp deck. As we did last week with Pioneer Decklists To Restore Faith In Humanity, weâre back with more sick Pioneer decklists. Albiet copter was easier to build around, but it was still versatile and was able to do what ever deck wanted to do as a cheap cost. [card](Oath of Nissa) (43 copies) Magic players are good people and will eventually stop playing degenerate shit because I know they, like me, want to cast their Siege Rhinos and Torrential Gearhulks! [–]Yagoua81 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (3 children). [–]FluffyWolf2 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), TCG Decklist Link: http://bit.ly/fluffyEsperSuperfriends I want to use Siege Rhinos again! [card](Llanowar Elves) (34 copies) it's a finisher that takes an enormous amount of mana or a lot of hoops to make effective. [–]Tehdougler 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (4 children). MTG DECKS by format and join one of thousands of communities. [–]ShoogleHS 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children), They are feel bad cards that make timmys/spikes angry. This is interesting. Discussing why a card may be too strong for the format, or concerns to the format being inaccessible due to issues like price is fine, but try to keep things constructive. [–]PocoTheTurtle 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children), Sorin gives lifelink not deathtouch unless im missing something, [–]Yagoua81 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child), [–]PocoTheTurtle 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), Oh,thought it was the war of the spark sorin. [–]tallandgodless 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (9 children). Yikes, that's a lot of Nissa Who Shakes the World. Tron needs to go off on turn 3..... turn 2 nissa yup seems fair. Im not entirely sure a Nyx ban is the answer. Notes: There are likely many punts, lines, and misplays. gottelicious (1st Place) Pioneer Challenge #12233113 on 11/28/2020 . 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