I did not know such evil existed in this world. Voters are also less informed. Goodbye ravelry you once had a site for all yet you chose to divide. More importantly what boundary issues preclude individuals from keeping their political opinions to share on the multitude of sites dedicated to that sharing. It’s become more stressful than not knitting. Lol get it knit & Patrick. I’ve been asking that same question over and over again. When I first read this last night I couldn’t believe it. The hat pattern which said ‘in God we trust’ was removed…or maybe it was ‘God is love’. This means that, just as those old ListServs saw us conversing about things other than knitting, people on the current sites also want to talk about things other than knitting. It took serious thought and great care to try and explain that the present political climate here in America is vicious, hateful, divisive, cruel and generally absolutely insane. How can we see each other as equals if we are determined to separate everyone into their own little slot. And in between read a few new blogs and get to know other knitters out there. I understand your point. Moreover, they lost access to patterns that they had purchased with real cash money. I lost a few friends over the past few years over politics. Asking members of Ravelry to turn in other members for possible wrong-think is ... Why can’t people just let others be, agree to disagree, and live and let live. But we have to call it as it is. I’m a liberal latinx and I unsubscribed for those very reasons—I won’t lend my support to any group that bans those with which they disagree, use hateful and divisive language—and the sad, transparent attempt to make their actions appear virtuous, only confirms the fascist thinking behind this silly position. Ravelry has a consumer rating of 3.26 stars from 478 reviews indicating that most customers are generally satisfied with their purchases. There is something very curious going on that is discussed in the video. You want us marginalized people to just go away so you can live above us like you always have. As a designer and teacher, Cat was known for her innovation, ... For many years on Ravelry, we'd release new features or site changes and work together with users in the For the Love. I am not the best at putting my thoughts to words, but this is my attempt: I agree with their stance of not supporting white supremacy. This is racism at its best! I am so mad I want to sue over freedom of speech. But, at least with all our differences, we have at least THAT we can build from, that we can use to communicate to each other with, learn from each other. I feel I loved Ravelry in the beginning and inspite of the fact that there were things happening that I did not agree with, I ignored it and still supported the platform. Polite discourse is dead. Why should we keep a knitting site…gasp.. about knitting. THAT IS A COUNTRY. ... Ravelry has many … Donald Trump is not a white supremacist! I don’t want to be connected to people like this. This is exactly how I feel! But another question: Why do you need donations? Ravelry does not speak for me…they claim they speak for the marginalized while they marginalize people. But just two days after the service announced its $9.95 deal … I’ll see if I can provide a shorter version. I’ll be buying my patterns elsewhere from now though. Gregory,thank you for putting into words exactly how I feel. Being kind is a necessity but this is just too must nonsense! Sadly I have been proved wrong. I have been an active member since November 2007. My donate button is a “tip jar” for people who appreciate my writing, this blog, and would like to see it continue. There are also a couple of other websites in the works – ourunraveled.com and I believe there is another one that is not fully functional yet. Karen Schneider, aged 65, knitter for 55 years. ... Deadliest Catch has been on the air for more than 14 seasons now and the audience still comes back each year for more drama! I hope they get to pocket more of their earnings instead of going through the middle man. This is by far the best response to this situation I’ve read so far. You’ll find in no time where you belong. Perfectly said. A “fuck Trump” pattern is a pro-human rights pattern, whereas a “God is Love” with hidden homophobic undertone pattern is a dehumanizing pattern. And I’m old as dirt. I’m a conservative straight dude that plays board games at a gay bar. We have worked so hard for so many years to rid the world of prejudices. However, a F*CK TRUMP hat pattern (you insert the U) is allowed to remain. new forum sites in the works right now. Another kidding! Also, I’ve long since stopped using Google for my search engine. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Thank you for saying exactly what I’ve been feeling. When another woman wrote to someone in Ravelry’s administration, the response referred to the conservatives as “children.”. As long as you respect me and treat me good I will do the same with you. We can politely agree to disageee on certain aspects, or scroll on. Your article is written with thoughtfulness, heart, and eloquence. At least Greg’s words give me momentary solace and have reassured me there are at least a few reasonable people left in the knitting world. It was started by Cassidy and Jess Forbes in 2007. Well said. But they painted all conservatives with a very broad brush – and I just could not remain on that site. Cool for liberals, eh? Statistics on 2012 are not yet reported online. Thank you for the great idea. After he got over being offended that Moi wanted to know if she was talking to a real attorney, Craig stated his bottom line: “Trust me, the laws on this afe [sic] simple. Moi reached out to the Ravelry administration to protest what happened and that takes us to another post she wrote about her experience. The site is for sharing the love of all the needle arts. And I sent them a note, a friendly reminder: “These skeins were not spun to be weapons….”. Since it is privately run they can ultimately do what they want. I have SO many cute photos of my babies in booties, Grandma in mitts, step Dad in hat, etc. The way he treats women, people of minority. Because I AM good – in my heart, in my mind, and in my soul. Val – I hope you will give this some thought. I realize I am late to the party as this happened on the 25 of June, but I felt the same way. Many of us had left the Conservative Knitters group under more and more stringent dictates of “you can’t say that”, and we didn’t want the same thing happening in the McCain group. In this politically divisive climate having a haven where those differences don’t have to be confronted is a positive. I’m a cross stitcher, and on occasion I crochet. The exact words I habe been saying since I heard what they decided to do. You can still participate if you do in fact support the administration, you just can’t talk about it here. I used to tell people that knitting was an emotionally safe space. I feel it’s dangerous ground to silence only one side. I assure you that my next blog post will be devoted to you. Clearly you thought long and hard about this and articulated your position extremely well. 4. Lottsa books out there. ; that’s all I want to talk about or think about in those groups. You all have helped me straighten my back and do the only right thing here ~ delete my ravelry account. I too will be deleting my account today. You CHOSE to stand alongside a man who harasses women and speaks about entire groups of people as though they are less than human. I have always thought that in it’s purest form knitting allows time for personal reflection, allowing us to turn to the quiet part of our soul and listen without all of the maddening noise that we’re constantly barraged with. Oh nice I’ll check out that FB group for sure!! Even if I give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they are actually trying to progress things in favor of equity and fairness (you don’t seem to give them this), it is divisive, hurtful, and ironically the epitome of what creates distention rather than growth in love and kindness. They don’t want to bridge gaps. Another that was started last week is Ourunraveled.com. Many of us found this site because of this. Dear Eyeamdust, Greetings & Happy New Year!! So when Ravelry decided that I’m a white supremacist just because I don’t rabidly hate every single idea that comes out of Trump’s head (though I do wish he’d put that damn twitter account down once in a while), I had to leave. Keep up the good fight. They simply aren’t allowing anything Trump related on their site. Blessings to you and yours in the coming months. Is there ANYTHING any more that is exempt from politics? 7% of their case load still involves locating people lost during World War II. Just requested to join the FB page, already almost a thousand strong! ... Arizona man has lost 5 family members … Thank you for expressing MY feelings exactly. I just knew that that Ravelry had made it perfectly clear that no bridges would be built on their platform. Don’t believe me? That they can’t see the irony in their own statement makes me shake my head. I too have enough patterns until I am too old to see to knit. You are less than. It would be nice to have another fiber art resource like ravelry with nicer policies. I said goodbye to all of my patterns and closed my account too. Just look at the issue of intellectual property rights on Ravelry. However, if the owners of the website wanted to use that as their platform, I figured it’s their site to do with as they please so I just ignored it. Here’s the statement I found on the main page of Ravlery’s website on Sunday, June 23, 2019: “New policy, effective immediately We are banning support of Donald Trump and his administration on Ravelry. I just think it is a huge leap to judge and label a group of people just because you don’t agree with a few of their actions. I began praying again, in earnest, for the removal of pure evil from this world. Thread Status: Not open for further replies. We also became a convenient target for “trolls” … those who naturally disagreed with us, but who felt the need to “educate” and “enlighten” us … we poor, unfortunate, knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing, McCain supporters … we were often painted with the broad brushes of fascism, Nazi-ism, neo-con-ism, bigotry/racism, class-ism, and just about any other “ism” you could name. Susan, Pingback: Bigotry Is Not Ok (or Ravelry Is at It Again) - Dreaming If. I will miss that early days diverse knitting community. I believe I have collected enough patterns, it’s time to start making some. This Memorial Day, we decided to take a close look at the number of American service members who lost their lives during wartime in Nearly 500,000 military … This says it better than I can. It never ever entered my mind and I have been knitting for over 50 yrs. A rough random bouncing around of the pages seems to reveal that about 98% have no projects, no stash, no posts, no patterns, nothing. You want to “build bridges”. In my life I am trying to love everyone as much as possible. Those who seek to oppress and divide usually end up uniting good people. We can be there as long as we agree to be second class citizens and let others abuse us on the website. Be polite, do not allow your anger or upset to color what you write to them. I’ve been a member of Ravelry since 2007, and I hate to leave all my project notes behind as they were fairly complete. There are just no excuses. I’m glad you’re here reading. Old post but I love it. anyway, It was the only conservative group on ravelry that was really vibrant and popular. The North American Lutheran Church (founded in 2010) is now home to many of those who left the ELCA. I just want to knit and snuggle my yarn. So for you l, hateful=any Trump? Where, exactly do you get this notion that the president hates anyone? I love you, man. It looks great and already has a lot of traffic. Oh, shit….I didn’t know I had done a Star Wars reference! And please let it be facts not theory. Bwahahaha. I deleted my account for similar reasons. It is a basic forum right now but they think it will only take about 2 weeks til many more features are added. But Jackie, they ARE keeping politics on their site – just the politics they want to see. If I want to buy a pattern, I will look for it on an independent website. Yeah, I suppose there are plenty of hate mongers on both sides of the fence, but to drive members of Ravelry away because of some misguided hatred for President Trump is ridiculous. They sure didn’t think that all the way through.. Not necessarily ignorance. For interaction with other members, the site includes forums, groups, pattern sharing and yarn contributions. There are more things going on with their decision other than just Trump issues. My first reaction to the new policy was sadness. The administration, however, felt it perfectly described the behavior that resulted when SJWs invaded conservative sites or followed conservatives to non-political sites. That starts with promoting tribalism, the us vs them mentality. My Indian friends have encouraged my curiosity about their beautiful country and have never gotten on to me about my misconceptions. I cannot, in good conscience, be a part of a company that would rather push people away, have them spy and attack each other, rather than bring them closer to the reason we even knit in the first place: to share the sense of peace we gain from knitting with others. Of the profiles with avatars, the oldest dates back to February 2015, and if you randomly visit different pages, all are peppered with projects, patterns, and posts. Here is the link if anyone would like to take a look. He just wanted to get rid of us, I guess! I’m with you on this. These days, I think about the moment they lost me forever. I wish I could hug you. I, too, deleted my Ravelry account after they posted their ban. Maple Grove, MN. It makes friends. One thing I’m wondering is will those patterns still be available in other users libraries once they have been removed from Ravelry? I’m a lesbian. Thank you for writing this and for the courage to do so. Well said! Thanks for reading! It makes me so sad to read your post and I applaud every sentiment you have so eloquently expressed. MizDi gives a vivid description of the type of conversations taking place in The Bunker’s knitting klatch, as well as they way in which the group’s moderators policed overt racism or other offensive material: As the election cycle came to a close, we got more and more negative attention [from SJW trolls]. Some members came to us who’d initially been Obama supporters … until they started to really *listen* to what he was saying … some had been Hillary Clinton supporters, but became dissatisfied with the Dems because they treated her so but treated Obama as if he were (to quote AllyKatt) a ‘special snowflake’. It’s quite obvious. That is what political sites and open forums are for. Actually dems are taking a page out of your book. THAT IS A COUNTRY. You are so off base. On this site, yarn lovers can go find patterns, make friends, sell their own designs, get advice and much more. I appreciate your point of view. They will not tolerate hate speech and will delete them immediately. That’s exactly my thoughts/position! I’m not helpless. I do not care who they are for. Ladies I want in this group. Look at this idiot trying to promote her book now.. She told Anderson Cooper rape is sexy and for her it was only 3 minutes.. I feel the same way that you do – and hoped it could be a place to come together. There are 16 cast members of M*A*S*H that have died and they are Wayne Rogers who was born as William Rogers III who had played Captain Trapper John … I find myself deciding to delete my Ravelry account for all the reasons you so eloquently stated even though I would describe myself as a liberal, non-supporter of Trump. So many here have said exactly what I was thinking and feeling…thank you. That is truly my happy place and has been for many years. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Post after post they are proving Ravelry’s point while completely oblivious to their own hypocrisy. How is that acceptable? There was a mass exodus from the site and other businesses have stepped up to take their place. What incensed me was their claim to be inclusive. Thanks for the update on Lion Brand Wool-Ease. Greg, your post is eloquent, and the comments here are a sincere testimony to the true feelings of the Ravellers whom Ravelry would simply prefer not to hear from. Can you export the account? I hope Ravelry goes down the tube as well. Hi Gregory. anyway.. Moviepass ended 2016 with around 20,000 subscribers, when you had to pay $14.95 for the cheapest package. They aren’t breaking any laws, but they are breaking their own code of supposedly being “tolerant” and “free-minded.”. Because we cared. Definitely not the message of acceptance and love I thought that community was…wishing there was elsewhere to find fellow crafters now. I am a South African. Thank you for putting into words what many of us feel. If you are kind and compassionate towards me you will get the same back. They labeled about half of their customers in a hateful way. Why must they draw the line in the sand? My heart broke a little that day, and I’m still looking for that place where we come together to knit, just because we knit. Took me a minute to become a member. When does a knitting site get involved in politics and WHY? MyDailyFiber quickly made a name for herself in our group and endeared herself to all members not only with her wit, common sense and unique perspective, but also her ability to churn our pro-McCain “Ravatars”. This is exactly why I’ve left Ravelry. MizDi again: Actually, we asked for help before the election was ever over. SO! Ravelry’s old logo, complete with Pride flag to show their history of inclusion. I avoid Ravelry when possible but it would be nice to have a new site to use in it’s place as it’s wonderful exchanging Knitting ideas and promoting your patterns and or yarn’s. I love our diversity and our differences are what make us interesting and creative!!! I was never political on Ravelry – or any other site that isn’t a political site – but I did support a lot of designers & spent quite a bit of money. If I was at all interested in politics, I would join a political platform. What does knitting have to do with politics? The people who think that they are being “inclusive” are the most bigoted of all. Wonder how many of us have deleted their Raverly account. Nooo. Makes me sad. That’s how this works. I’ve been wondering about it ever since I deleted my Ravelry account a few days ago…. If you can’t see the difference or understand why a inclusive website(s) would do this it’s probably better that you do leave. There are jerks on both sides. They’ve gone welcome to all who believe only what I do, which I find deplorable. I LOVE YOU. I actually didn’t even vote for Trump, but I’m one of those crazy people who support the office whether my preferred candidate made it there or not. Different strokes, different folks. Said Moi. Boycotting Ravelry would only hurt the people who are designers and depend on this site for their livelihoods and I want to continue to support them. I did not see their anti democratic antics on tv, hear it on radio or any blog. There is also a FB group for venting. Why can’t everyone see we are being manipulated to hate each other….a divided USA is a weakened USA. I’ll try again, but let me know if it’s broken for some reason. Gregory, one of the most thought provoking and eloquent blogs you have written, and you have written a lot of them. Ravelry excluding not one person. We did NOT allow racism, sexism, or what most people with common sense would consider hateful. Deleted mine as well. I think we have made progress since the 50’s but worry all the constant harping by special interest groups is destroying the progress we made…inciting division rather than bringing us together as humans. I learned long ago that no matter how hard you try to persuade someone to change their mind about politics, the harder they dig in. But to single out a group you do not agree with, label them something HORRIBLE to defend your actions is very Nazi like- do you not agree? I witnessed the same and have pretty much stayed to my own and only watched youtube videos. There quote, which I cited in my post, was a definite decision to side with ONE political belief over another. I thought it was the American way that a person can do what they want with their property. 1,190.5 new members per day on average. I would encourage people who are feeling outraged and confused by Ravelry’s behavior to read George Orwell’s novel “1984.” ThoughtCrime, FaceCrime–we’re living “1984.” Ravelry has fully revealed the fascism masquerading as liberalism. Knit on head held high Greg! Please give examples and proof of what you accuse him of. Dr. King had it right, he was a very wise man. I could have supported them totally if they had come out and said no politics but how can they claim to be inclusive and then take sides. He was my anchor when my brother died. Thank you! A lot of the email thread is dedicated to that word “children,” which the conservatives found demeaning. I agree. That’s a double standard, it’s wrong and it’s far from even handed. People are divided by many things, not just political or sexual reasons. Then, BAM! "Ravelry, a social network for knitters with 8 million members, banned users from showing support for Donald Trump on the platform". Naome— So long as you’re in the deepest darkest closet you’re “welcome” to sit and listen to others deride and abuse you. The Church of Scientology has often asserted that it has approximately ten million members worldwide. Thank you. Likewise, our moderators simply deleted troll posts. they got their blinders on and claim they are doing it for the good of all.. yea sure. Veterans, children in need, families struggling. I no longer buy yarn from manipulative and entirely unkind indie dyers. Also, they are flat out wrong that we are supporting white supremacy. Not so much anymore. I agree that their “company is not about knitting anymore.” So I join my voice with you and all the commenters here that have written exactly what I am feeling. My only public comment was that I had mixed feelings about the decision, and pitchforks were already being polished. I do not feel welcome there anymore. I usually agree with everything you write but I must disagree with you on this one…it seems to me that Ravelry is not banning people who are in support of trump only their actual support because in their (and many others ) opinion he is a gay bashing ,race hating white supremist and they are trying to keep all that off their forum…they don’t care what you believe as long as you are not bashing others for following YOUR. Also, I might add, that accusing half the country (and knitters who support POTUS) of supporting white supremacy is an extremely unfair characterization/generalization of a lot of people. I doubt I will attend another sheep and wool festival. I’ve been a member for years. To go back to the very beginning, the internet was tailor-made for crafts. It really hurt me to leave all my projects behind. What I do know is that many of these decisions are based upon dialogues that sink into anger and ugly rhetoric is tossed around. I was upset they would call me, a Southern, Christian woman who supports Trump, a racist. Well said. Add in all my other hobbies and I think I am good. He has done more for people of color and women than any other previous President. I know, I know. It’s slander. Australia has $1.1 billion dollars of unclaimed money. Didn’t we all just go there to knit and find other people who had the same interests in all things fiber? The resignation on Monday of three ministers over Brexit means Theresa May has now lost more than 30 members of her Government in the past 12 months. We cannot provide a space that is inclusive of all and also allow support for open white supremacy. We are over 50, different political and religious views, and not once has anyone ever said a cross word to another. But to say he hates any one group of people is ridiculous. May your intarsia be flexible and lie flat. He Googled it for me and in the subsequent article describing the Trump ban, a quote from you was found. I’m received with open arms. Where adults will be encouraged to be loving, kind, and mature Adults! And for showing yourtrue colors. My decision to leave Ravelry was not politically motivated. The Ravelry page on Twitter is displaying so much hatred. But then I found why the measure: it’s not ok to attack a person for saying they do not like a pro-Trump pattern. Ravelry has unraveled because they apparently aren't bright enough to comprehend ACTUAL tolerance. So, I deleted my account because their decision to ban support of Trump only helps to perpetuate this massive hysteria that has overwhelmed this craft for a long while now. Censoring half of your customers and not the other half is blatantly wrong. The owners at Ravelry have stated several times that once a pattern is added to someone’s library it will stay there, is the file copied to another part of their server for that persons library? Why is a Fuck Trump pattern allowed on Ravelry but not a God is Love pattern that was banned? You can love me and not like my decisions! It’s not about promoting inclusiveness. Unfortunately, many conservatives are louder and in your face and use Trump as their excuse to spew. How many of those were “forced” is another question. Many of us had supported others, but when it became apparent that McCain had the blessing of the Republican “powers that be”, we decided to do what we could to support the man … mostly because we knew what a disaster Barack Obama could/would be, and it was apparent that the way was being made clear for Obama….McCain was going to need all the help he could get. #iwasbannedonRavelry.com #badgeofhonor. So censored for nothing. “For those of you who have asked about donating to Ravelry: please support us by supporting Ravelry designers, dyers, advertisers, and shops, particularly those run by people who are black, indigenous, people of color, members of the LGBTQ+ community, disabled crafters, those who belong to otherwise marginalized communities, and those who are speaking out on justice and equality issues to effect change.”. The Red Cross does not just work on locating recently displaced person. I missed it for a while and I was hurt they took that tack. I deleted my Ravelry account for the same reason. I’m so sick of the double-standard that the left can express their POV but the right cannot. Thank you thank you thank you Gregory for being so thoughtful, fair- first time on your site but not the last! Labour denies reports it has lost 150,000 members over Brexit stance. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. The world has gone mad. Ravelry gets ~180,000,000 page views a month and we could probably cash in on that in a big way but we're very committed to keeping the ads pretty, relevant, and accessible to very small businesses. How dare these people state that as fact when it is not! Go to any of the tech/social media/information sites — Google, Twitter, YouTube (a Google subsidiary), Yahoo, Pinterest, Ravelry, etc. Why can’t people just let others be, agree to disagree, and live and let live. I agree with everything you said. Zero. 2. #walkawayfromravelry. Back then, two conservative knitting bloggers told their tales at length. I’ve spent a lot of time on Ravelry and in the fiber community, and have felt the push that I’m not permitted to think what I think if it doesn’t coincide with what others think. Which tells me that they are missing the point behind this craft. A place where we can enjoy and admire each other’s work. Lol. Thanks for this, you have put it very well. Has anyone else looked at Mimi Dee’s youtube link? I’ve seen name calling and vulgarity on both sides, and my respectful posts disagreeing with the policy have simply disappeared. So have several of my friends. I went to the polls kicking and screaming. When hate supercedes anyone’s logical reasoning and narrows their ability to see beyond that hate. Thank you, my feelings, exactly. Ravelry, which says it has eight million members, was shut down to new users on Monday, and the site’s leadership did not respond to multiple requests for comment. You know, I overlooked d*#ks for teddy bears, f you “magic scarves”, and p*ssy hats. I am afraid that this will bring negativity to the table for us, and a fear of finding other avenues and ways of insulting people. Here’s to screaming mimies! No wonder then, that in 2016, the big social media outlets assumed that conservatives would continue to be cowed. I just knew that Ravelry had made it perfectly clear that no bridges would be built on their platform.” That was my reason too. It was the only time I ever saw him. I know that pain too. EXACTLY! Kudos to Ravelry. I can’t go to my local LYS anymore for the same reason. will we ever know how many of us DID delete accounts? Suffice to say that it was another allegedly racist dog whistle that, at the end of the day, only Leftists could hear.). Peace and love to all. I agree 100%. I was rather taken back by Ravelry’s announcement and couldn’t find the words top express how I felt but you have done an excellent job. Required fields are marked *. We want to just live our lives and be left alone. Please tell me how you managed to delete your account. Yesterday, Ravelry, one of the largest fiber arts social media sites, with a member roster 8,000,000 strong, made the equivalent of a loud, rude farting sound in the conservative blogosphere. Instead, they are requesting that they keep their support of Trump and his administration off of Ravelry. I didn’t like either candidate. I’m pretty sure I and many others wonder where you see or hear hatred coming out of the president. Love the whole thing, but especially the next to the last paragraph, “I can’t in good conscience……”. Your observations are spot on. Or judged. I hope there is a huge class action lawsuit put against Raverly! It just makes sense. I haven’t been brave enough to coo e or because of the reactions I’ve seen. topic-specific social media discussion forums ban political speech/prevarication of any stripe. Just have felt curious how the designers who sell on rav feel about the hateful new policy. I feel as their new policy has succeeded in doing the exact opposite of what they claim they are wanting. I dare you’ and ‘your different opinion will be removed’. Any conservatives can feel welcome to particate as long as they remain muzzled. Thank you for your expression on this issue. I’ve gone to Loveknitting, who sells me yarn when I want it and doesn’t bother with forums at all. I could have accepted “no hate tolerated ever, by anyone” or even “check your politics at the door” but the misguided application if everything bad at the feet of one small aspect of politics just blows my mind. the political opinion. Hopefully this time around people will see how crazy their policy is. Why didn’t they just do that? I’ve seen so much division from the “inclusives” that I’m not sure I shouldn’t just leave those groups. To be clear, and to reiterate what it says in its policy update, Ravelry has not banned people who support Trump from the site. May your wool be moth free and soft. I think people need to understand that this is about promoting anarchy and communism. What’s even more insidious, on one group I think someone was pretending to be pro Trump and making vulgar ridiculous comments to further inflame the group. You hit all the parroted talking points and everything! That was awesome. Here’s what MizDi has to say about those groups (and keep in mind that this was all taking place back in 2009): For those that haven’t been keeping up, Ravelry used to be just a fiber arts community-type website. We cannot provide a space that is inclusive of all and also allow support for open white supremacy. I would not be at all surprised to learn that, just as it did in 2009, after first silencing conservative speech, Ravelry then starts purging conservative crafters. But I do have patterns in my library and comments. You all need to wake up to the way you are being lied to by the media and your social networks. I don’t feel comfortable purchasing from companies who are tied to a Ravelry, either. It’s about making people ashamed of their country and their flag. Thankyou! There’s also real pleasure in showing off a finished project to an audience that truly appreciates the effort that went into it. It actually took my breath away, to be honest. It was so well written that I wanted to remind people how vile this type hatred is & how deeply it affects all of us on every level. Rachael (Rashieknits). I have been in an absolute tailspin since I read their declaration of war against anyone who is conservative. They have told us in no uncertain terms that they don’t want us there.. The vast majority of conservatives are not hateful and do not support (insert labels of the day). Today’s tech titans were all good students who ended up at good universities — places such as Harvard and Yale, where the Leftist infection runs deep and strong. The very fact that you contradict yourself in your own comment — by claiming Ravelry to by “inclusive” while they clearly aren’t and then advising Gregory to leave if he “doesn’t understand” shows your own narrow-mindedness. I’ve seen their support of the LGBT etc etc community, but until today, had not heard anything regarding Trump. If you want to knit and be a supporter of trump’s vindictive hatred you should contact the KKK. Ravelry made a political stance based off untrue statements, it's disturbing that yet another platform takes a side and causes more division.' So it’s about knitting and fiber arts and the politics THEY allow. I ask because I looked around that group and didn’t see anything objectionable, only the usual, we support Trump comments and liberals seem to be acting crazy these days. Thank you, thank you!!! I am reading that you are saying Ravelry is justified in repudiating all Trump supporters as ‘unambigously white supremacists” but that’s okay in your book because a tiny fraction of their members stupidly doxed people who espouse liberal views. Why not just put a ban on all political talk? of hate speech but it’s rampant there.. even the far left LOVE hating on others.. Ravelry doesn’t seem to be fostering a healthy environment, but a segregate one. 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